and the other guys, they got hillary and joe biden. >> okay. let me get to the politics of this. you're good at this, gene. you've been an editor. he's thinking about tomorrow morning. he knew he just stepped on it. he made what could be a sexist, and certainly was an ageist comment. you're referring to hillary. who's younger than him, by the way, by five years. >> absolutely. >> being one of the "golden girls" which is a popular show. his shot was negative. he covered his butt by throwing biden under the bus. >> what else could he do at that point? >> he heard those footsteps coming his direction. >> he realized he had said something he shouldn't have said. certainly said it in a way -- >> one of the great catchers, the gotcha journalists going to do with the guy? i heard it's already online. people commenting about this. it's not a big attraction, but -- >> there's so much coming out of cpac. you know, donald trump going nutso and other things. i think it will get lost in the wash. it's interesting, though, how positive he is about rand paul now. because, of course, rand paul b